I Would Like To Be A Nonconformist - Interview with Nick Offerman
Nick Offerman:
Canoeing the L.A. River unironically is like doing non-union theater in Chicago. Not a lot of people are going to hear about it, but you have the beauty of performing in a Harold Pinter play and you’re just happy to have done it.
-- http://www.believermag.com/issues/201210/?read=interview_offerman